We kick things off by getting the bio/background on SMiles Lewis and how he ended up gravitating towards the esoteric. He discusses his evolution as an experiencer of odd anomalous incidents to eventually becoming actively engaged in the esoteric scene. This leads to some discussion on the "zine era" of esoterica, during the 80's and 90's. SMiles gives us some great first-hand perspective on what the paranormal research world was like during this unique period. Amidst this discussion, SMiles shares the bizarre story of Ira Einhorn and how he connects to the zine scene of esoterica.

Following that, we discuss the birth and evolution of esoterica on the Internet and get SMiles's opinion on this new era of the paranormal. This leads to some discussion on the importance of funding and entertainment programs to fuel interest in the esoteric.

Looking at SMiles's 20 years of researching the esoteric, we find out how he avoids burning out on the subject, given the lack of definitive answers and the high volume of interpersonal drama. He talks about the importance of maintaining the works of researchers who have "moved on" from the esoteric field. He also reflects on how his interest in UFOs quickly changed to interest in parapolitics after 911 and how diversity of interests helps to avoid that burnout.

Next we discuss the UFO phenomenon and get SMiles's learned thoughts on what is really going on with UFOs. He talks about some of the researchers who have influenced his perspective on UFOs and shares his complex take on what the UFO phenomenon is, explaining a scenario that is worlds away from the standard, nuts and bolts ETH hypothesis.

Based on SMiles's take on the UFO phenomenon, we find out whether or not he thinks disclosure is even possible. This leads to some discussion on the disclosure movement and the plusses and minuses of Stephen Greer. This line of thinking segues into some of the issues surrounding abduction research and filtering of information from abductees. We talk about how the disclosure scenario hinges on the ETH theory being the source of UFOs. SMiles speculates on how much the US government really knows about UFOs and why he was worried about the release of the French Cometa report.

Following that, we turn towards the other big pillar of SMiles's research: 911. We get his take on the events of 911, being that he comes from Austin, Texas, which is a hotbed of parapolitical research and activism. He talks about how his previous research into UFOs laid the groundwork for a lot of his 911 interest and research. SMiles discusses the dual oddities of 911, both the paranormal elements and the parapolitical elements. He also shares the aspect of 911 that he finds most compelling.

He also has a surprising take on how the 911 Truth Movement may have been engineered by the forces behind the events. We also get his perspective on the birth and evolution of the 911 Truth Movement that we have seen grow over the last seven years. Looking at the latest developments in the genre, we cover the trend of "ambush journalism" that has erupted in the field over the last year or so and why SMiles has mixed feelings about it.

This leads to some discussion on the ghost hunting fad, SMiles compares it to the UFO boom of the early 1990's and how the two trends are kind of similar. He also talks about some of the downside of today's ghost hunting boom and how it can be applied to estoeric research overall. Looking back at the 911 Truth Movement, we get SMiles's thoughts on where he sees the genre going in the future, including a frightening potential scenario and also whether or not we'll ever see a legitimate investigation into 911. Wrapping up the 911 talk, we discuss the odd trend of celebrities endorsing a 911 conspiracy and find out what SMiles thinks about that. This segues into the good and bad aspects of mainstream entertainment covering esoterica.

We talk about the ELFIS network, where SMiles came up with the name and what the ELFIS network is all about. He explains some of his influences on ELFIS, like early parapsychological research using electromagnetics and Terrance McKenna's research. He talks about some of the folks he has worked with in the ELFIS network and the electromagnetic smog that modern people are awash in. Following that, we talk about the Anomaly Radio Network, that SMiles has put together (which includes BoA:Audio) and some of the evolution of the podcasting medium, which SMiles has been at the forefront of. SMiles tells us about his radio program, "The Blue Rose Report," and the origins of the name of the program. He also talks about the other two shows he co-hosts on the ARN, "Psi Op Radio" with Mack White and another program co-hosted with Craig York.

Taking the conversation in a completely different direction, we grill SMiles about his burgeoning career as a hand model. We cover SMiles's latest big project, Anomaly Magazine and its origins and goals. He also talks about another of his projects, developing audio versions of popular paranormal books, a niche that is sadly quite small. Wrapping it up, we find out what's next for SMiles Lewis and where people can check out his diverse esoteric projects.