We start out with discussion of the story of how Hitler captured and was presented with the Spear. The story of Himmler and his occult obsession, including the interesting element of Himmler's creation of a duplicate spear. The origins of the story of the Nazis shipping the Spear to Antarctica. This leads to a discussion of the purported Nazi base in Antarctica, including the stories of German submarines surfacing post-WWII.

We discuss if the Nazi Antarctic base, Station 211, was real and if so, how big it may have gotten, including the rumours that come from Pravda regarding Station 211. Hollow Earth theory, Admiral Byrd, and Operation High Jump and how they tie into Station 211. Jerry explains why, even in modern times, it is hard to get solid information on whether or not Station 211 exists.

Hitler's mysterious death and how there was considerable controversy over it both post-WWII and today. The many problems associated with the mainstream version of Hitler's demise. The stories of Nazis possibly escaping to Argentina, including even Hitler himself.

Bringing it back to the Spear, we discuss the existential ideas behind the spear, is it powered by belief ? Does Jerry see a situation in the future where the Spear becomes "relevant" to geopolitics as it was in history. The Nazi Underground. Is a declaration of possession of the Spear a requirement to unleash its powers ? If not in Austria, where is the Lance today ?

For the last half hour, we finish up the interview with a great discussion of Jerry's best friend since childhood, Jim Keith, legendary esoteric writer. Jerry takes us from their early friendship through the development of Keith's career, with a number of fascinating and fun stories of their growing up together. This is just an awesome biographic look at Jim Keith, and the various adventures that shaped his life and career. We also discuss Jim Keith's mysterious death and Jerry's thoughts on it. This portion is a real treat for fans of Jim Keith or those who have yet to discover his work. Jerry also gives some insight into some secret knowledge that Jim had and inadvertantly took to the grave with him.

And, of course, future projects coming from Jerry E. Smith, including a new book coming soon and a conference for later in the Spring.

Jerry E. Smith has been a writer, editor and activist for over three decades.

In 1991 Mr. Smith and Jim Keith, author of Black Helicopters Over America: Strikeforce for the New World Order and numerous other conspiracy and mind control books, founded the National UFO Museum (NUFOM) in Reno, Nevada. From 1991 to 1994 Mr. Smith was the Executive Director of NUFOM, while Mr. Keith acted as the Chairman of the Board. In addition to his administrative duties of running the day-to-day operations of NUFOM, Mr. Smith also edited and wrote for that organization's quarterly journal, Notes from the Hangar.

At the same time Mr. Smith worked as an editor/graphic artist with Jim Keith's magazine Dharma Combat: The Magazine of Spirituality, Reality and Other Conspiracies. Jerry served variously as Managing Editor and Art Director from Dharma Combat's inception in 1988 until Jim's untimely death in 1999. Today he lives and continues to write in Reno, Nevada.

His website is www.jerryesmith.com.

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Jerry E. Smith

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