We start things out by bringing newcomers up to date on who Nick Pope is and the story of his job at the UFO Project of the Ministry of Defence in the UK. Nick tells us about how the UFO Project for the MOD came about the 1950's. Nick considers why the UK UFO Project continued for so long after its US counterpart, Project Blue Book, was shut down in the early 1970's.

He speculates on why he received so much media attention in the UK, considering his predecessors were largely operating anonymously. Nick gives us an update on the status of the UK UFO Project since he left the post and provides the startling revelation of what he hears as far as where the Project is heading.

Looking back on Nick's tenure at the UFO Project, we find out how extensively he worked with the UK & US UFO Groups of the time. We also find out if Nick had any contemporaries within the other European governments who were charged with investigating UFO cases as well.

Nick gives us a pretty thorough look at the 1993 Cosford case which may be Britain's 2nd most famous UFO case. He also shares with us the US reaction to the UK's inquiries about the Cosford case. From there, we get Nick's perspective on the UK UFO scene nowadays, following the massive explosion in popularity in the 1990's. Nick talks about how the FOIA has caused somewhat of a sea change in British Ufology.

We find out what kind of information someone reporting a UFO would get back from MOD, once they had completed their investigation and what sort of information is contained in the UK UFO files.

Nick talks about what it is like to deal with some elements of Ufology who believe in a cover-up and want him to "blow the whistle" on it. This leads to a discussion on how it is disappointing that the Ufology world demonizes the government and military instead of trying to work with it.

Jumping back to Nick's time with the MOD UFO Project, he takes us through an average day there and how he'd go about investigating a case. Nick estimates that 80% of his cases were explainable, 15% had insufficient evidence, and 5% were unexplainable. We find out what became of those cases that fell into the 5% area and what elements usually constituted a case becoming one of the 5%.

Moving on, we talk about some of the other weird elements that Nick was tasked with investigating as part of the UFO Project, including cattle mutilations, crop circles, and ghosts at military bases. We find out how Nick investigated some of those strange cases. We also talk about Nick's interest and investigation into the abduction phenomenon.

We talk about Nick's criticism of the government for not having a plan of action in the event of an ET discovery, which segues into his take on the media firestorm that surrounded his sharing these criticisms late last year when he left the MOD. We get Nick's perspective on the Exopolitics movement that has sprung up in the last decade or so. We also talk about Nick's latest endeavor, engaging in debates over the events of 911 and taking the side of the US government's explanation for what happened on that fateful day. We also find out where Nick sees Ufology going in the future.

Wrapping it all up, we find out what's next for Nick Pope and what he thinks is the most important thing for Ufology to do as it goes forward.

Nick Pope used to run the British Government's UFO project at the Ministry of Defence. Initially sceptical, his research and investigation into the UFO phenomenon and access to formerly classified government files on the subject soon convinced him that the phenomenon raised important defence and national security issues, especially when the witnesses were military pilots or where UFOs were tracked on radar.

Nick also looked into other mysteries such as alien abductions, crop circles and ghosts. He now continues his research in a private capacity and is recognised as a leading authority on UFOs and the unexplained. He does extensive media work, lectures all around the world and has acted as consultant on numerous television documentaries.

His website is nickpope.net

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