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Marie Jones & Larry Flaxman

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Two longtime friends of BoA:Audio make their seasonal return to the program as Marie Jones and Larry Flaxman, known as the Paraexplorers, detail their two new books: The Grid and Viral Mythology. As is the fashion when we all get together, the playbook and questions essentially get thrown out the window in favor of organic conversation and abstract discussion.

Over the course of the program, we delve into Marie & Larry's grid theory from a variety of angles including what happens after death, information as a 'force,' the mutable nature of reality, and other heady topics. In discussing Viral Mythology, we get into ancient aliens, how vast amounts of information about our ancestry has been lost forever, Binnall's obsession with the caduceus, and lots more. Plus, we somehow end up talking about the missing Malaysian airline and, briefly, One Direction or, as Larry prefers to call them, 1D.

Like meeting up with old friends at the corner pub, the conversation seemingly picks up right where we left off the last time we saw them and continues into new and intriguing waters as Marie Jones and Larry Flaxman joins us once again on BoA:Audio.

Full Preview: We begin by talking about The Grid and how it constitutes the culmination of Marie and Larry's frequent conversations about the true nature of the universe. Next we attempt to unravel the nature of 'the grid,' by having Larry detail what it is composed of, which leads to him explaining how the ultimate goal of the 'grid theory' is to provide some hypothesis regarding what happens when we die. We also briefly touch on ley lines and dispel the notion that the concept connects to Marie and Larry's 'grid.'

In light of humanity's place within 'the grid,' we ponder whether or not humans can ever fully understand the true nature of this infrastructure which overlays our existence. This leads to some speculation about whether or not science will be able to supplement humanity's limitations and allow us to perceive the true nature of 'the grid.' This leads to some talk about the nebulous and mysterious nature of 'reality' and how difficult it is to truly decipher what is 'real.'

Connecting this all to the core paranormal realms, Larry details how 'the grid' connects to the ghost phenomenon, which starts with him sharing his critique on some of the issues facing the world of paranormal research. Larry then traces the history of the paranormal research field and how it continues to miss the biggest clue of all: the perception of the witness who experiences the unknown. This circles back to how humans are the common denominator within 'the grid.'

The discussion on ghosts continue as we talk about the various ways in which a ghost may not be the traditional definition of the spiritual essence of a dead person. We also, facetiously, ponder what the 'end game' is for ghost hunting. This leads to a momentary trashing of the orb 'phenomenon' and its adherents. Larry then smashes the 4th wall of the paranormal and marvels at how there are a variety of motives at work beyond 'searching for the truth.' He also compares paranormal 'research' with actual standardized scientific research.

Hilariously, Larry then breaks down the stereotypical ghost hunting group, complete with their Affliction-wearing ringleader. This breaks down into a meta discussion on the mindset of the paranormal 'research' community and how it has become more of a business rather than a scientific pursuit. Pivoting from there, Binnall asks the duo to explain information and what constitutes it, can you measure it or hold it, etc.

The conversation then turns towards Viral Mythology and we begin with how the book came about and the duo provides a thumbnail look at the tome's premise, which examines how ideas spread throughout humankind from our earliest history in the form of art, language, architecture, and other forms. This leads to some talk about how much of human history remains shrouded in tremendous mystery. Marie goes on to contrast modern viral ideas with classic viral concepts that appear from the past.

Next we tackle the always-controversial topic of ancient aliens and we get Larry's take on the possibility that ETs came to Earth and helped the human race in its development. To that end, Larry discusses the oddness of the Dandera Lightbulb as well as anomalies concerning the inside of the pyramids and the strange Saqqara Glider. Marie also talks about how these ancient anomalies do not necessarily wholly support the idea of ancient aliens.

From there, we muse about whether it is better for a society to generate a plethora of information, as we do in modern times, or focus on a handful of specific, important cultural messages, as appears to be the case in ancient times. The conversation then segues into talking about the actual fragility of current human information, in the form of electricity-dependent materials, as compared to ancient rock messages. We then, collectively, lament the missing information that was lost, over the centuries, as armies conquered other armies and nations went to war.

Considering the seemingly numerous ancient anomalies which suggest advanced peoples in the distant past, we speculate on why there seems to be no support for such a fantastic heritage by those in officialdom and academia. Jumping to a different sort of topic, we talk about the caduceus and if it betrays ancient knowledge of DNA and other medical possibilities. And, of course, we cover the obligatory ancient anomaly: Renne Le Chateau.

Heading towards the close, a seemingly innocuous question about the missing Malaysia airline leads into an extended conversation about the media coverage of the tragedy. Larry then talks about the strange black image which was anonymously posted to reddit and was allegedly from one of the MH370 passengers who claimed that he was being held hostage by a paramilitary group. This turns into a spirited discussion about conspiracy theories and how they spring up surrounding any mysterious event.

Closing out the program, we get an update from Marie on the caldera at Yellowstone and what the latest happenings there may mean for the future. We also find out about Marie's new book, EKHO: Evil Kids Hunting Organization, which is co-authored with her son, Max. Additionally, we learn about Larry and Marie's ambitions for film and fiction projects as well as future paranormal-based books from the duo.

Marie Jones Bio

Marie Jones has been involved with the paranormal in one way or another for most of her life, which led to a fascination with quantum physics and the writing of her book, Psience: How New Discoveries in Quantum Physics and New Science May Explain the Existence of Paranormal Phenomena. Marie is also a New Thought/Metaphysics minister and spiritual counselor. She holds a Master's Degree in Metaphysical Studies and has also studied Wicca, goddess traditions, mythology and comparative religion. She worked as a field investigator for MUFON (Mutual UFO Network) in Los Angeles and San Diego in the 1980s and 1990s. She is also the author of 2013: The End of Days or a New Beginning.

Her website is mariedjones.com.

Larry Flaxman Bio

Larry Flaxman is the founder president of the Arkansas Paranormal and Anomalous Studies Team. He has been actively involved in paranormal research and investigation for over ten years, and melds his technical, scientific, and investigative backgrounds together for no-nonsense, scientifically objective explanations regarding a variety of anomalous phenomena. He has appeared in numerous newspaper, magazine, radio, and television interviews, and has authored several published articles regarding science and the paranormal. Larry also serves as technical advisor to several paranormal investigation groups throughout the country.

His website is arpast.org.

Collectively they are the authors of 11:11 the Time Prompt Phenomenon, The Resonance Key, This Book is From the Future, The Deja Vu Enigma, The Trinity Secret, and The Grid as well as Viral Mythology. Their website is paraexplorers.com.

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