We kick things off with a little bit of background from Angelia Joiner as she details how she ended up first hearing about the Stephenville UFO case. She also details the conflicting messages she received from the Ft. Worth Naval Air Base regarding the events of that night. We circle back around and have Angelia give us a thumbnail look at the events of January 8th, 2008, so that we have a basis for the conversation moving forward. Angelia then walks us through the process by which the Stephenville story became a national phenomenon. We also have Angelia speculate on why Stephenville stood out amongst the plethora of UFO sightings and went on to become such a signature case of the last 10 years.

Angelia also talks about the radar information that has come out about Stephenville as well as the Crawford Ranch angle that has been discussed often in the media. We then find out about the subsequent odd activity in October of 2008, where F-16s were dropping flares over the Stephenville area, igniting another round of UFO reports and speculation. She also talks about the strange sighting her brother had of these "flares" which may indicate something else.

Taking things back to the immediate aftermath of 1.8.08, we have Angelia recount how the witnesses reacted to the "Stephenville mania" which exploded in the days subsequent to the event. Angelia recalls some of the early Ufologists who held guide her along the way in the beginning of her investigation of the field as well as how quickly she went from local reporter to national news program guest. To that end, we have her reflect on what she was thinking as this story went from a local piece to a global story. She also shares a story about her meeting with a TV news reporter who confessed that they'd never cover a UFO story, for fear of hurting their career.

We then find out about Angelia's much discussed departure from the Stephenville Empire Tribute. Angelia takes us through the events that led to her leaving the newspaper and recounts some never-before-told information of the entire affair. She reveals how there seemed to be conflicting messages sent to her from the publisher of the paper, who was in favor of more UFO coverage, and the editor, who was not. Angelia then details, in-depth, how her relationship with the newspaper began to deteriorate after being told to stop covering the UFO story, ultimately leading up to her departure from the paper.

From there we discuss Angelia's journey into the field of Ufology and find out what sort of early research formed her knowledge base as she began investigating the UFO phenomenon. She talks about what aspect of Ufology she finds most troubling.

Taking our conversation back to Stephenville, we find out if Angelia is still living the the now Ufologically infamous town. We find out, from Angelia, what the people of Stephenville,notably the "town elders," think of the fact that the town is now indelibly linked to the UFO phenomenon. We also find out if there is much of a "UFO economy" still vibrant in Stephenville, two years after the big event. Angelia also reflects on what she's been up to since entering the UFO field two years ago, including a book project with Grant Cameron and her annoyance with working from home.

Two years into her research of the UFO phenomenon, we get a proverbial "state of belief" from Angelia as far as what she thinks the UFO enigma is all about. We get her perspective on the dichotomy of Ufology: those who are still trying to figure it out and those who "know" what UFOs are. Angelia speculates on what the mainstream public really thinks about UFOs. Having dealt with a lot of mainstream news outlets in the fallout of the Stephenville incident, we find out from Angelia if they ever indicated, behind the scenes, what they thought of the event or UFOs in general. We also get Angelia's thoughts on the Exopolitical movement as well as the perceived "race" amongst researchers to be the first to unlock the UFO puzzle.

Given that Angelia is the third female reporter to enter the UFO field after first investigating (alongside Linda Moulton Howe and Leslie Kean), we find out what she thinks of this subtle trend. We also get Angelia's perspective on the fact that Ufology has far fewer prominent women researchers than male Ufologists.

We next discuss Angelia's podcast, The Joiner Report, starting with how it came about in the first place. We find out how Angelia decides on what guests to interview for the program as well as some of the non-UFO guests she has featured on the show.

Looking at the public perception of the UFO phenomenon, we ask Angelia if people should be interested in UFOs and, if so, how do we get them interested in the subject. Angelia provides a surprising answer as to how to get people interested in and informed about UFOs. Angelia also talks about the difficulty she had in engaging the mainstream media about the radar reports that came out of Stephenville six months later, which, ironically, were the same media outlets that covered the story originally. We also have Angelia weigh in on Binnall's theory that part of the reason that Stephenville got so big is that it happened in the window of 12.26 to 1.10, when sensational or odd stories seem to an inordinate amount of coverage (ala Jon Benet Ramsey, Scott Peterson, and the O'Haire UFO case).

Wrapping things up, we find out what's next for Angelia Joiner as 2010 and the future unfolds. She teases a book co-written with Grant Cameron as well as the potential for a book on Stephenville. We also find out if there is anything else that can come out about Stephenville or if the story has essentially run its course.

Formerly, a staff writer of the Stephenville Empire-Tribune, Angelia is known internationally for breaking the January, 2008, UFO sightings in Stephenville, Texas. Angelia has appeared twice on Larry King Live and continues to do many interviews across the nation. Most recently she appeared on Discovery Channel Investigation X and worked closely with ABC producers on UFOs: Seeing is Believing, which aired on September 16, 2008, and resulted in a special thank you credit. The Mutual UFO Network Texas branch recognized her in 2008 as the organization’s “lead investigative reporter.”

She has worked closely with Robert Powell, MUFON national research director, and Glen Schulze on the Stephenville radar report, which confirms an unknown object in the area on that now infamous night.

In 2007, Angelia earned two second place awards from the West Texas Press Association for feature writing and special coverage. In 2008, she won first place in feature writing from the same organization. Angelia earned a Bachelor of Science and graduated Magna Cum Laude from Tarleton State University in 1998 with an interdisciplinary teaching certification.

She is a native of Stephenville, Texas, and a member of Delta Kappa Gamma, a professional women’s organization for teachers. Angelia is married to Randell Joiner who is also an area native and she has a daughter.

Her website is angeliajoiner.com.

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